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As we wrap up another crazy week two thoughts: 1) thank you. Love this community. Proud to be in this fight with all of you. 2) we need to be tolerant of fellow Democrats as we all seek to find our way in this new day. Folks are going to do stupid things, make bad decisions and we cannot freak out. This is a hard time. People are angry, scared, worried. Not everyone is going to be smart and good every day. We have to anticipate this and not cast people out from the tribe but work to help them find a better path. If we turn on each other it's over and they win today and for a long time. Onward - Simon

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I rarely add my $0.02 cents here, but I have to dump it all here today, because most of yesterday's comments were ABSOLUTELY INSANE. I love my fellow Hopium mates but IMO some of us need a seriously frank reality check right now...

"It was because she was a woman. All those macho Latinos and young men who listen to podcasts didn't want her. I'm not sure we can afford to run a woman next time." I am begging you guys, absolutely BEGGING you to cut this out. This is the same shit people said after 2016 that made them feel compelled en masse to pick a boring centrist elderly white man in 2020 over all the other options. Years later, look where that got us. PLEASE do not do that again. Look, Harris lost because she was stuck being the VP to either the most or 2nd-most unpopular President in modern history, and was given 107 days to cancel out 3 years worth of negative sentiment from the public, which - while the attempt was exhilarating - proved to be impossible. (Biden was as unpopular for most of his whole term as Carter was at his nadir or Bush Jr. was right after Katrina!) Young men are more progressive in both economic and social attitudes than older men, and while some misogyny still obviously exists, insisting that bigotry is the engine powering the thinking of large numbers of young men who are potential Dem voters is so untrue, insulting, and alienating. I would like to remind y'all that the demographic shifts away from Dems in '24 were the same as in '22, when there was no biracial woman running for President. I would like to remind y'all that Hillary Clinton - a woman! - won Latino men by large margins. (Also, the President of Mexico is a Jewish woman.) I would like to remind y'all that Biden was losing in hypothetical polling to woman-of-color Nikki Haley by a landslide. Harris improved on Biden's polling among all groups, and won more raw votes than he did in '20 in WI, NV, NC & GA. The excitement of having her possibly make history powered voters TOWARD her in a way no Midwestern white dude could ever have managed. It just wasn't enough, because a billion dollars can't buy you more TIME, which is what she needed.

"I wrote a zillion postcards but we didn't win. What ways can we contact people other than mail, calls, and door-knocking?" Uh, none? Unless you believe in chemtraiIs and mass hypnosis, talking and writing are kind of the main modes of human communication. Even though postcarding makes for a more jolly activity, it is not as helpful as phone or text banking or frankly anything else, but folks here got reeeeeal touchy when that was pointed out.

"Ok, but why did I put effort into volunteering when clearly the ground game didn't make a difference?" It did make a difference, it just couldn't save the White House or our majorities. The admiration for Biden on here is *still* blinding people to how much grave damage he did. The Harris team have publicly described the internal polling when she took over as "gruesome" and "catastrophic," and the whole campaign as a "rescue mission" to pull off "a miracle." Biden was going to Iose every swing state by something like 8 or 9 points and likely take blue states down with him as well. The ground game makes something like a 2% difference, which is everything in a tied game, but won't save you if it's not. If we had not switched candidates AND had the best ever ground game, we would have lost at least 4 more Senate seats and dozens of House seats, guaranteeing Republican power for a generation.

"Why was the NYT not talking about the good Biden did BEFORE the election? It would have made a BIG difference!" It would have had the same impact as an editorial from Cronkite or Murrow, which is to say none. Old folks are having a *really* hard time grasping that. The data is clear that Harris/Dems whole loss came from low-information voters who avoid traditional media. My 24yo brother is a college-educated honors student and was a 4H **state ambassador,** and I genuinely don't think has ever held a real newspaper in his life, let alone read one. If the NYT shut down tomorrow he wouldn't even know. He wasn't going to vote until Harris took over, then voted for her on the basis that she was "more liberal and a nicer person and would rather see her face for a few years." He wanted to get "coconut-pilled" (look it up), and took note when Charli XCX proclaimed "Kamala IS brat" (look it up). He doesn't know what 60 Minutes is, but would have loved it if Harris had found her way onto Hot Ones (look it up). This is the world now, Grandma.

"I'm disowning Fetterman. Who could primary him?" LOL WTF GTFO This man could be a top contender for President in '28 if he wants to be, and we need to spend the years in between cloning him. He is a true progressive who campaigned hard for Bernie and Biden and Harris and won his swing state by FIVE points. Lemme get this straight: FDR got chummy with Stalin, but Fetterman merely agrees to meet with the President-elect who carried his state and you're MAD about that? He damned Trump with some backhanded compliments on a talk show and said he'd keep an open mind on the Cabinet and you're MAD before he even votes on anyone? Newsflash: every swing district person is gonna do that. Politics 101. Their job is to survive. Loud opposition is the job of folks in safe seats.

"If we need to get louder, why aren't we getting loud already? Where are our leaders?!?!" They are taking a damn minute to figure out what went wrong and what the new line of attack needs to be. We just lost to the worst people on Earth, remember? Maybe re-evaluating is needed before we start running our mouths again. Nothing has happened yet, and when it does we need to pick our battles.

"Why are all those Dems appeasing the enemy by voting for that Laken Riley Act? They should be opposing such a horrible bill!" You may like it or not, but the idea that we should detain someone who is a thief and not a citizen is a reasonable-sounding idea to most Americans. Hate to break it to you guys, but if a bill gets dozens of the opposing party members to vote yes, by definition that means it is incredibly popular and non-controversial. Our government is supposed to represent popular ideas, right? Don't complain when they do their job for once. Besides, Schumer & co. will almost certainly get amendments on it.

"Why was Obama being nice to Trump in that photo?" Because being polite to someone who you hate is what you do at a freaking FUNERAL (with assigned seating). What was Obama supposed to do, bend over and fart in Cheeto's face while the cameras are rolling? This wasn't a game of cooties, it was a FUNERAL.

"What can we do about these endless negative emails begging me for money?" Click the "unsubscribe" button at the bottom of the email. If it's a text, click the "block spam" button. You are asking why you have weeds in your garden, when you never pull up the weeds. Pull up the weeds and after a while they will stop growing. Just. Click. Unsubscribe.

"I think she lost because she focused too much on battleground states!" Holy crap. I'm out.

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